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Post by jdv on Dec 7, 2021 9:19:18 GMT -5
WHILE many people associate the beginning of WWII with Germany's assault of Poland in '39, in fact the Japanese had more or less been at war with China and Russia since the 1880's.
The Empire of Japan's most bold assault happened when their sneak attack of the United States took place Dec 7th, 1941 - 80 years ago today.
And for a brief moment after the aftermath of the destruction at Pearl, and concurrent attacks on the Philippines, China, Indochina (Vietnam), a country with less land mass than Michigan ruled more than half of the earth's surface area.
The Japanese were fierce warriors with the best trained pilots in the world flying the best planes on earth. And they were a united people with a strong command structure. Formidable opponents in every sense of the word.
With the United States Pacific fleet in tatters and Germany at the height of its powers in Europe not to mention what comrade Stalin was up to), it was a grim time for peace-loving people of the planet.
Yet the seeds for Japan's ultimate destruction were sown at Pearl as the most important boats - aircraft carriers - were spared as they were out on maneuvers at sea. It should be noted that that fact would only really be proven after the Battle of Midway.
That naval battle - still the largest in the history of this planet - would happen exactly 6 months later. Led by Ray Spruance (because "Bull" Halsey was sick) the US effectively destroyed the Japanese fleet as an offensive navy by the end of the battle.
But for the 6 months in between, Japan ruled the Pacific and effectively terrorized the US the entire time (see "1941" for a fun look at that). That time was the high water mark for the Axis, and conversely the low point for the Allies.
It would take 3 more years, over 110,000 American casualties, millions of dollars in gear, and the dropping of 2 atomic bombs to finally put down the Japanese.
The very last of those warriors - all but children themselves when the war started - are mostly all gone. Bob Dole and the last officer from "Band of Brothers" Easy company passed this week. Without men and women like them, our victory over Japan would have never happened.
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Post by Plissken on Dec 7, 2021 11:28:48 GMT -5
We might get another world war.
The Western press and NATO seem to begging for a war with Russia.
Let's invade in the winter.
That always works out.
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Post by jdv on Dec 7, 2021 11:58:38 GMT -5
Winter is exactly what they're waiting for - tanks run very well on frozen ground.
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Post by jdv on Dec 7, 2021 12:07:36 GMT -5
We might get another world war.
The Western press and NATO seem to begging for a war with Russia.
Let's invade in the winter.
That always works out.
Don't worry scro - "Iron" Joe Biden is on it!
"Biden To Threaten Putin With ‘Significant And Severe Economic Harm’ If Russia Invades Ukraine
While the White House’s readout of Biden’s call with allies didn’t directly mention sanctions, one senior administration official told reporters that European allies and the U.S. agreed on sanctions that would cause “significant and severe economic harm on the Russian economy.” The official appeared to downplay the idea of getting involved militarily, telling reporters they are “not seeking to end up in” such “a circumstance.” ---------------------------------
I'm sure Vlad's shaking in his boots over the warning Joe hasn't even had the balls to issue yet.
But if Putin's crazy enough to invade, Joe will shout "don't invade!" again super loud. Which I'm sure will get those Russian tanks to halt in their tracks.
To call it a clown show is a dis to clown shows.
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Post by Plissken on Dec 7, 2021 12:12:10 GMT -5
Winter is exactly what they're waiting for - tanks run very well on frozen ground. It obviously didn't work out for Teutonic imperial ambitions back then.
Maybe things will cool down in the short term or maybe Russia is vulnerable and cornered by the Clownworld Empire.
It does seem that the fun might begin at some point down the line.
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Post by Plissken on Dec 7, 2021 12:21:23 GMT -5
We might get another world war.
The Western press and NATO seem to begging for a war with Russia.
Let's invade in the winter.
That always works out.
Don't worry scro - "Iron" Joe Biden is on it!
"Biden To Threaten Putin With ‘Significant And Severe Economic Harm’ If Russia Invades Ukraine
While the White House’s readout of Biden’s call with allies didn’t directly mention sanctions, one senior administration official told reporters that European allies and the U.S. agreed on sanctions that would cause “significant and severe economic harm on the Russian economy.” The official appeared to downplay the idea of getting involved militarily, telling reporters they are “not seeking to end up in” such “a circumstance.” ---------------------------------
I'm sure Vlad's shaking in his boots over the hasn't happen yet warning not to invade.
But if Putin's crazy enough to invade, Joe will shout "don't invade!" again super loud. Which I'm sure will get those Russian tanks to halt in their tracks.
To call it a clown show is a dis to clown shows.
Russia's basic angle is basically that NATO is amassing and looking like a threat at THEIR borders with Ukraine seeking membership, etc. and the Western media trying to demonize Russia as amassing for an invasion of Ukraine is fake news.
At this point, there's clearly a propaganda war on both sides.
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Post by jdv on Dec 7, 2021 12:33:54 GMT -5
When it becomes a shooting war, is there any pair of people in the history of this nation worse than Biden and Harris to deal with it?
Jim Belusi's more qualified.
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Post by Warpig on Dec 7, 2021 14:19:38 GMT -5
Not to worry, with our new Fagmiral, and General "High Heels" Milley, we'll just out-queer our enemies. They might have power, machismo, and advanced military technology, but WE will look FABULOUS!
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Post by Plissken on Dec 7, 2021 14:53:04 GMT -5
Let's face it. For good or ill, liberalism won WWII.
Any gay bomb the West tried to develop was bound to backfire.
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Post by jdv on Dec 7, 2021 15:08:59 GMT -5
The straight bomb didn't seem to work either....
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Post by jdv on Dec 7, 2021 20:30:38 GMT -5
And the vid-phone meeting meant to scare old Vlad into not invading was... less than optimal: "Mic Problems Leave Biden Bumbling In High Stakes Meeting With Putin President Joe Biden experienced technical difficulties during his Tuesday virtual meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin wile discussing concerns over the potential Russian invasion of Ukraine. The Biden team closed the meeting’s start to U.S. reporters, but Russian state media published video of their introduction, according to the New York Post." ---------------------------------- The minutes of the meeting have not been released (nor are likely to be to anytime soon), thus we don't know if Iron Joe warned Putin not to invade. Either way, I'm guessing Joe's depends got put to the test tonight. dailycaller.com/2021/12/07/joe-biden-vladimir-putin-ukraine-russia-meeting-mic-problems/
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Post by Warpig on Dec 8, 2021 9:42:53 GMT -5
Is the corpse of Gerald Ford available?
He could hardly do worse.
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Post by jdv on Dec 8, 2021 13:44:08 GMT -5
Tucker Carlson reminded his viewers yesterday that the Ukraine has no inherent value to the United States and that war with Russia would be bad. He also found it odd that "Iron" Joe and his administration would be so worried about the sanctity of Ukraine's border, when our own is so obviously not. But with each new poll bringing a new record low in approval - even in his own party - Joe's only option may be starting a new war - a fact made doubly strange given how he ended the one in Afghanistan. TuCa pointed out that one of the many successes Trump had was simply keeping us out of an unneeded war, an incredible achievement in the post WWII era all by itself. www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/12/08/fncs-carlson-there-is-nothing-we-could-possibly-gain-from-a-military-confrontation-with-vladimir-putin/
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